Tuesday, February 10, 2015

A Minor Quibble with the Festering Cesspool of Racism that is Japan's Yahoo Auctions

Rant time.  Sorry, but I'm pissed.

I was cruising Yahoo Auctions earlier today and was about to put a bid in on a Famicom game from this seller by the name of gs76u87o.  

Then I stopped because I wasn't allowed to.  Not because I have any problems with my feedback.  Not because I couldn't pay promptly.  Not because of anything I had done or would do.

The reason I couldn't put a bid in on the game was because gs76u87o is a piece of racist garbage.

If you can read Japanese and take a look at any of his listings, he openly states that he won't deal with foreigners.  Note that the language makes it clear that he isn't referring to people living overseas - which would be OK since most sellers only ship within Japan for a variety of legitimate reasons.  No, he means anyone who is not ethnically Japanese he won't deal with regardless of where they live.

While not in the majority, it is disturbingly common to find this sort of racism being openly displayed by sellers on Yahoo Auctions.  It probably doesn't get commented on much since these things are always written in Japanese so most foreigners don't notice and it has less visceral impact than seeing "Japanese people only" written in English..   

It pisses me off that Yahoo Japan - a major company if there ever was one - allows this open type of racial discrimination to go on.  If an Ebay seller put up a condition saying "Only white people can bid on my stuff, if I find out you aren't white, I will leave negative feedback and blacklist you" you can imagine the shitstorm that would happen.  That guy would not have an Ebay account for long.  On Yahoo Auctions though it is totally OK and good luck trying to complain about it.

This sort of shit is, while not an everyday thing, something that foreign residents of Japan do have to put up with in various situations.  The only time it ever really causes a stir is when the perpetrators make the mistake of expressing their racism in English - as was the case with the incident in the photo at the top of this page (which occurred at a pro soccer game - the team actually allowed that banner to be hung in the stadium for the duration of the game and were only punished by the league after an outcry following the photo showing up online). 

So anyway, what was my point?  Fuck you  gs76u87o I guess is obvious, but also fuck you Yahoo Japan for allowing this shit to exist on your service that I AM FUCKING PAYING YOU TO PROVIDE TO ME and have a LEGITIMATE EXPECTATION THAT MY ETHNICITY WILL NOT PRECLUDE ME FROM FUCKING USING IT.

Sorry for the all caps, but that really needed to be emphasized.





19 comments:

  1. Whoa... I think this is the first time I've ever seen such strong language on here. But man, you are right. Racism should NEVER be tolerated ANYWHERE. It's really sad that there would be some people who wouldn't accept money just because the customer is a different race than them. All we can really hope for is that karma bites this guy (and any other racist losers) hard on the ass. You know what they say about karma... the longer it takes to hit, the more devastating it will be.

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  2. Yeah, sorry about the language :) I got a bit riled up there.

    I should perhaps emphasize that the vast majority of sellers on Yahoo are cool, but there are some guys like this out there who are just openly racist.

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    1. Some people in business just don't like money that much.

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  3. That's OK, let's stay positive, I'm pretty sure this guy doesn't take care of the way he packs the games, that the products he sells don't work and that they smell like dog poop... I'm sure you're not missing anything ;D

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  4. Thanks Matt, yes, his stuff probably has all that stuff going against it. My victory for having avoided giving him any money :)

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  5. My sister was once refused tissues on the street. She asked him "Gaijin kirai desu ka?" He almost shit his pants. His companions gave her lots of tissues as an apology. He just ran away like a little mouse. Some of us do understand Japanese. Surprise surprise. If you live in Japan you should be able to buy whatever you want.

    Even if I could order in a friend's or husband's name I still wouldn't buy from an asshat like that and I'd let everyone know what a shitty behaviour is going around. It would never be tolerated in my country and it's illegal at that.

    I don't live in Japan right now but I've been visiting a lot. Maybe one day I might live there, who knows. I could met someone and end up staying there. If I do the first thing I'll do is writing to the Japanese government and stop this bullshit if needed. Heck I'd do it anyway and get others to do it too. I think it's serious enough, actually.

    Foreigners are probably more accepted now than before but it's still not quite comfortable knowing people can put up signs like that. Gosh heavens, how could anyone accept that, even if someone is pure breed Japanese?

    Next time I'm Japan, if I spot any racist asshats I'll be sure to let them know that I wont accept their opinions. Don't worry, I'm not gonna bitch and yell, I'll ask them as calmly and polite as possible to take down the sign or whatever it's about. Or you know I could send 50 foreigners their way and see how they deal with rejecting them all from entering. lol

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    1. If you can't figure out why they don't give free tissues to gaijin then i feel sorry for you.

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    2. Probably because gaijin like me would shit in their precious Yamato tissues and force them to eat those.

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  6. I have encountered similar sellers before. On both ends of the spectrum though. I am glad to say more often I get sellers who when they see I am not Japanese engage in friendly banter about world travels etc more than the few who have canceled the sale and black listed me. While I agree with you that this kind of behavior is horrible. I would only say "Fuck You" to yahoo if they were made aware of the issue and did nothing. Have you contacted yahoo about this ass hat?

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  7. So what about proxy companies. Do you think they run into these type of issues? I rarely buy stuff off Yahoo! Auctions these days, but when I do I use a proxy company like Rinkya.

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  8. so racism, much wow

    seriously. why!? there needs to be more strict anti racist polices on auction sites, that's why I never use them, along with ludicrous shipping charges and scammers

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  9. I found your blog after googling that seller and had a similar experience over a PS2 game bundle (I can probably find elsewhere, but that's beside the point)

    No reason was given. My bid was removed and I was blocked from all communication and bidding with him.

    Here's the thing. *I am a naturalized Japanese citizen* it's pretty crazy. If he didn't block everyone he thought was foreign his rating would be a lot lower. Is there anywhere else online to complain about sellers like that? Yahoo Auction is unwilling to help.

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  10. That is crazy. Yahoo Auctions really needs to institute some sort of rules/buyer protection system - it is a total free for all out there and while most sellers are perfectly fine there are enough bad apples like this guy out there trying to ruin it. Not sure what can be done, other than of course putting up blog posts like this (would obviously be more efffective if this blog was in Japanese but I guess its a start).

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    1. Try putting up a blurb in Japanese about it to catch searches in Japanese?

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  11. Man, that is some bullshit. Like Candiman asked, have you reported this guy (or anyone else with similar nonsense on their shops)? If so, what was their response?

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  12. but there would be no problem that a japanese buys him cheap and fucks off some people on ebay later... (especially when it's some koreans (who were supposedly hated by japanese..) whichs makes the fuck. it's a gay orgy there

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  13. I don't see any problem with this, I'm pretty sure that it's just a hassle dealing with foreigners when Japanese isn't their first language. Unfortunately it's just a bit of a blanket rule probably to streamline the process. It's not like they hate you. I was born in Australia and I'm not Caucasian, I've lived with REAL racism all my life. I know no other language other than English but because of my appearance have been told to my face to 'go home to China' numerous times. Firstly I'm not Chinese and secondly all I had to do to score the nasty comments was to just exist. If the roles were reversed and you were the seller, would you really want to keep communicating to Japanese customers that communicated only in Japanese and kanji?

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  14. The point you seem to be making is that since there are worse instances of racism out there this instance of racism is OK. I don`t really accept that in principle, though I acknowledge that you being told to go home to China is way more egregious. I also acknowledge that I am a white male who never experienced racism of any sort before (and of course that white males in general have heaping racism on others in horrible ways for centuries).

    That said, my personal experience is largely irrelevant - the racism I am complaining about doesn`t apply just to white males but to all foreigners resident in Japan (the vast majority of whom are not white males).

    You note the intention of the guy as if that was somehow important. It is totally irrelevant. If some Australian business refused to serve people who looked Asian not out of personal hate but simply out of concern that their English might not be so good and banning all of them "streamlined the process" would you accept that? If not, why do you think foreigners in Japan should?

    But even if we were to accept your suggestion that it wasn't about hate, you have the problem that contrary to what you suggest, everyone who uses YAJ has to speak Japanese so language isn`t the problem. Nobody is trying to message back and forth with sellers in English or any other language (the whole website is in Japanese and just signing up for the account, not to mention using it, requires a fairly decent command of the written language).

    So your example about the roles being reversed is a misleading comparison. When I sell stuff in an English language website (as I sometimes do) I naturally expect to be communicated with in English. For the same reason I don`t expect YAJ sellers to communicate with me in anything but Japanese. What I don`t do as a seller is pre-emptively ban everyone who has a name that doesn`t sound English from doing business with me. You know why? Because I`m not a racist prick like this guy, that is why.

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    1. Yeah it doesn't matter if there's worst cases of racism, it shouldn't be tolerated or allowed anywhere in the world. If he wont sell to non Japanese he may as well stop going to Mc Donald's and stop eating pasta and bread and all the other things that isn't considered Japanese. I'm being a little silly here but I'm not wrong am I? We're not moving into his house, if we pay him for the games he should have no rights to complain.

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